LMAO THEY TRIED HIDING MY GOODBYE POST

[ES63]

This proves that they cannot handle being exposed, nor can they handle being hated

They said my ban was "fair"

but why was it 2 months??

I still have yet to know that, their reasoning is "you broke the rules" but you know good and well minehut that that is some bs

it wouldve been like 2 days, not 2 months

I now know that they've hid EVERY SINGLE ONE OF MY POSTS, REPLIES, AND EVERYTHING about my ban

Lmao nice one, just hiding wont work minehut

Edited October 25, 2022 by ES63

[theriue]

im sorry, did you do anything to get banned or did you just get banned? if you did something, what?

 

[ES63]

3 hours ago, theriue said:

im sorry, did you do anything to get banned or did you just get banned? if you did something, what?

 

It was swearing, and yes i did it

Im not mad for being muted, im mad at the duration

Its 2 months and 3 weeks.

And also it just randomly went up to a ban (with the same duration amount)

All for swearing

Support team wont do anything because they are little kids that probably dont even know what a screw is

[_Tarna_]

why you mad at support like they are the ones who set the new punishment lengths. also the forums isn't really the place for complaining about punishments so thats probably why they keep getting removed. 

Edited October 26, 2022 by _Tarna_

[ES63]

1 hour ago, _Tarna_ said:

why you mad at support like they are the ones who set the new punishment lengths. also the forums isn't really the place for complaining about punishments so thats probably why they keep getting removed. 

but why 2 months and 3 weeks for light swearing?

my last ban was 15 minutes

last mute was 1 day

not a single soul has told me why it randomly was 2 months and 3 weeks mute, then suddenly became a ban (with an added day)

I can't even celebrate new years, christmas, or anything on this server all because of some light swearing and stupid ban amounts

plus ive already said "i know where the support thing is, and im not trying to appeal on the forums"

Hope this explains why im mad

Edited October 26, 2022 by ES63

[jamieisthebest]

We don't punish for "swearing" on servers, we punish for slurs. There is a large difference. 

[Checkmate128]

This is just the way it always works. A small project driven by passionate individuals is bought out by a large corporation and gradually sacrifices individual freedom for centralized control and increased profits. I have seen this show before. I have seen this show many times.

Minehut now sees itself as a platform and not a service provider. The difference being a service provider does not moderate its users' actions in their own spaces (servers) while a platform does. Think of the difference between your phone company and Reddit. Your phone company does not listen to your calls while Reddit moderates its subreddits for compliance to a set of rules.

The internet and the world as a whole is moving away from the freedom of individual expression and speech. This is just a fad, as the values of society always oscillate about the same axis. But while this fad persists, we must know the bounds of our own individuality.

Ultimately, the decision that maximizes our own happiness may be to go out into nature in solitude to observe its beauty, to find happiness that is independent of any company, and to appreciate the things that are owned by nobody. We may find that through observation and understanding of phenomena, we may obtain a greater understanding of ourselves, others, and the world in general.

So, to the person reading this who is facing an unfair punishment, please for your own sake, find happiness that comes from yourself and yourself only. Your ban has as much power over you as you let it have. I hope you find that happiness.

[ES63]

44 minutes ago, Checkmate128 said:

This is just the way it always works. A small project driven by passionate individuals is bought out by a large corporation and gradually sacrifices individual freedom for centralized control and increased profits. I have seen this show before. I have seen this show many times.

Minehut now sees itself as a platform and not a service provider. The difference being a service provider does not moderate its users' actions in their own spaces (servers) while a platform does. Think of the difference between your phone company and Reddit. Your phone company does not listen to your calls while Reddit moderates its subreddits for compliance to a set of rules.

The internet and the world as a whole is moving away from the freedom of individual expression and speech. This is just a fad, as the values of society always oscillate about the same axis. But while this fad persists, we must know the bounds of our own individuality.

Ultimately, the decision that maximizes our own happiness may be to go out into nature in solitude to observe its beauty, to find happiness that is independent of any company, and to appreciate the things that are owned by nobody. We may find that through observation and understanding of phenomena, we may obtain a greater understanding of ourselves, others, and the world in general.

So, to the person reading this who is facing an unfair punishment, please for your own sake, find happiness that comes from yourself and yourself only. Your ban has as much power over you as you let it have. I hope you find that happiness.

Getting banned from minehut is like a chainsmoker trying to quit cigarettes

Cigarettes are the chainsmokers favorite thing, and then its just suddenly taken away because of yourself, you found the side affects, and its bad for you

Just like that, minehut was my favorite server. Then it just suddenly got taken away

It might not make sense im not good at this stuff lmao

Some people might say "oh its just 2 months and 3 weeks wait it out"

Whenever you rely on a server to have income, it kinda matters dude

Anyways, well said

You're the only one that can agree with me @Checkmate128

But minehut, cmon, 2 months for the r slur??

Edited October 29, 2022 by ES63

[Checkmate128]

10 hours ago, ES63 said:

Getting banned from minehut is like a chainsmoker trying to quit cigarettes

Cigarettes are the chainsmokers favorite thing, and then its just suddenly taken away because of yourself, you found the side affects, and its bad for you

Just like that, minehut was my favorite server. Then it just suddenly got taken away

It might not make sense im not good at this stuff lmao

Some people might say "oh its just 2 months and 3 weeks wait it out"

Whenever you rely on a server to have income, it kinda matters dude

Anyways, well said

You're the only one that can agree with me @Checkmate128

But minehut, cmon, 2 months for the r slur??

I completely understand the way you feel. Unfortunately, stuff like this is the consequence of the current state of the internet. When one big fish dominates the whole pond, is it really possible for small fish to thrive. The smaller fish are probably better hunters with prettier scales, but they stand no chance against the big fish.

This lack of market competitiveness has pervaded society since its beginning. Whether you look at the 1800s and 1900s with Carnegie, Rockefeller, and J.P. Morgan or even now with the dominance of Walmart, Starbucks, and McDonalds, the need to establish competitive conditions in markets has been important to governments since their very inception.

Competitive market conditions are important because they give consumers an ability to choose between various competitors who compete to provide the best value for their product. The early days of the internet had many smaller competitors. These companies, websites, etc. promoted individual freedom because each banned user was lost revenue for them and each banned user would just use a different service. The internet is no longer in its golden age. I would say that ended in 2015. There is now so little competition that one company often controls the vast majority of users in a particular market. This state of affairs only benefits the large companies and directly hurts consumers.

Ultimately, this situation will eventually change. This change will not be through government intervention like in the 1800s or 1900s though. This change will be the result of individuals choosing free and open source software. This change will be the result of people quitting their dependence on large companies. This change will be the result of people learning to love nature, the outdoors, and their own solitude.

Now, about your point of Minehut "suddenly being taken away": Nothing ever suddenly disappears. There is always a journey. Every villain has a story, nobody suddenly goes from perfect to evil overnight. I think the beginning of this journey was the removal of the volunteer staff team. I know there were legal reasons behind it, but I still liked the volunteer team best. Or maybe the beginning of this journey was the rules change in July or an entirely different event.

My advice to you is, spend your time and money somewhere that shares your values. This is probably the easiest way to find happiness. I also recommend going outside and seeing the beauty of the natural world and quitting all social media. I recommend the use of free and open source software since those creations are owned by nobody just like the natural world. My best wishes to you in your journey. I hope everything I have said serves you well and allows you to find the purest form of happiness: that which comes from yourself.

[ES63]

6 hours ago, Checkmate128 said:

I completely understand the way you feel. Unfortunately, stuff like this is the consequence of the current state of the internet. When one big fish dominates the whole pond, is it really possible for small fish to thrive. The smaller fish are probably better hunters with prettier scales, but they stand no chance against the big fish.

This lack of market competitiveness has pervaded society since its beginning. Whether you look at the 1800s and 1900s with Carnegie, Rockefeller, and J.P. Morgan or even now with the dominance of Walmart, Starbucks, and McDonalds, the need to establish competitive conditions in markets has been important to governments since their very inception.

Competitive market conditions are important because they give consumers an ability to choose between various competitors who compete to provide the best value for their product. The early days of the internet had many smaller competitors. These companies, websites, etc. promoted individual freedom because each banned user was lost revenue for them and each banned user would just use a different service. The internet is no longer in its golden age. I would say that ended in 2015. There is now so little competition that one company often controls the vast majority of users in a particular market. This state of affairs only benefits the large companies and directly hurts consumers.

Ultimately, this situation will eventually change. This change will not be through government intervention like in the 1800s or 1900s though. This change will be the result of individuals choosing free and open source software. This change will be the result of people quitting their dependence on large companies. This change will be the result of people learning to love nature, the outdoors, and their own solitude.

Now, about your point of Minehut "suddenly being taken away": Nothing ever suddenly disappears. There is always a journey. Every villain has a story, nobody suddenly goes from perfect to evil overnight. I think the beginning of this journey was the removal of the volunteer staff team. I know there were legal reasons behind it, but I still liked the volunteer team best. Or maybe the beginning of this journey was the rules change in July or an entirely different event.

My advice to you is, spend your time and money somewhere that shares your values. This is probably the easiest way to find happiness. I also recommend going outside and seeing the beauty of the natural world and quitting all social media. I recommend the use of free and open source software since those creations are owned by nobody just like the natural world. My best wishes to you in your journey. I hope everything I have said serves you well and allows you to find the purest form of happiness: that which comes from yourself.

Well said again

Anyways i found out theres like 100 other servers just like minehut, with a better and less toxic community

It doesnt matter about the players, nor the fame, nor the income

Its just about having fun

I might come back in 2 months and 3 weeks, but low chances since ill prob forget about the server

So yeah bye!!

[_Tarna_]

On 10/26/2022 at 7:54 PM, ES63 said:

but why 2 months and 3 weeks for light swearing?

my last ban was 15 minutes

last mute was 1 day

not a single soul has told me why it randomly was 2 months and 3 weeks mute, then suddenly became a ban (with an added day)

I can't even celebrate new years, christmas, or anything on this server all because of some light swearing and stupid ban amounts

plus ive already said "i know where the support thing is, and im not trying to appeal on the forums"

Hope this explains why im mad

I understand that. I also don't get why they increased the punishment lengths so much. But it just seems like you are mad at the wrong people. 

Also I wasn't saying this isn't the right place to appeal, just that your earlier posts may have been getting removed since the forums isn't really a place to complain about any sort of punishments.

[ES63]

I found out:

• Minehut is really boring once you play it for almost 6 years straight
• There's way better servers with WAY better communities
• Going outside is fun
• Playing other games is also fun
• School suddenly became 10x easier (i wonder why)

Finally i have an excuse to use bullet points lol

[ES63]

On 10/30/2022 at 8:58 PM, _Tarna_ said:

I understand that. I also don't get why they increased the punishment lengths so much. But it just seems like you are mad at the wrong people. 

Also I wasn't saying this isn't the right place to appeal, just that your earlier posts may have been getting removed since the forums isn't really a place to complain about any sort of punishments.

Im just confused why they cant like help to figure out why its increased so much

"Our punishment system scales, so the more times you are punished the longer the duration gets. If you're upset about how long it is you can try following the rules"

Ahh yes 15 minute ban = 2 month and 3 week ban

and 1 day mute = 2 month 3 week mute

:)))

also im like never punished (ban-wise)

[Checkmate128]

3 hours ago, ES63 said:

Im just confused why they cant like help to figure out why its increased so much

"Our punishment system scales, so the more times you are punished the longer the duration gets. If you're upset about how long it is you can try following the rules"

Ahh yes 15 minute ban = 2 month and 3 week ban

and 1 day mute = 2 month 3 week mute

:)))

also im like never punished (ban-wise)

I think they increased the punishment lengths because they knew that getting rid of the paid staff team would drastically increase the player-to-staff ratio. Longer punishment times means less reoffenders per day which means less work for staff. The reason they switched from a mutes to bans for many things has to do with their philosophical transition from a "service provider" to a "platform" as I mentioned in my earlier replies. 

[Cybergirl]

I agree with you dude. It's just that swearing shouldn't be banned for two whole months.

[ES63]

On 11/8/2022 at 7:24 PM, Checkmate128 said:

I think they increased the punishment lengths because they knew that getting rid of the paid staff team would drastically increase the player-to-staff ratio. Longer punishment times means less reoffenders per day which means less work for staff. The reason they switched from a mutes to bans for many things has to do with their philosophical transition from a "service provider" to a "platform" as I mentioned in my earlier replies. 

Its just sad that we've come a time where the R SLUR is bannable

[aritbh]

 

17 minutes ago, ES63 said:

Its just sad that we've come a time where the R SLUR is bannable

i wonder why... cuz its offensive ... and its not "light swearing", its a word to offend a certain group of people.. its not sad that its bannable.

[ES63]

3 hours ago, aritbh said:

 

i wonder why... cuz its offensive ... and its not "light swearing",

bro my 3rd grade teacher has said that

my uncle has said that

my mom has said that

my grandma has said that

i could go on and on about this

Quote

and its not "light swearing"

if you read the replies you could see i no longer recognized it as light swearing

Quote

its a word to offend a certain group of people.. its not sad that its bannable.

bro they were nosy and looked in my chat logs whenever i was reporting someone for saying something WAY WORSE than the r slur

and also it doesnt explain why its 2 whole months (and 3 weeks) like ive watched someone get banned for a week for saying the N word and thats actually racist

saying the R slur isnt racist, thats just a meaner way of calling someone stupid

all ive seen from these replies is nobody can take being called dumb

mods prob gonna warn me or possibly ban my forums account for saying this

bro cyberryan if he saw that he wouldve laughed and told the support team to go away

[Checkmate128]

On 11/11/2022 at 6:48 PM, aritbh said:

 

i wonder why... cuz its offensive ... and its not "light swearing", its a word to offend a certain group of people.. its not sad that its bannable.

It is quite problematic that severe punishments are being doled out for chat infractions. Not only is the length seriously concerning, the fact that this was a ban instead of a mute is of greater concern. He made the mistake of saying 6 letters in chat and received a multiple month ban. I don't know his punishment history and maybe he has like 5 prior punishments, but this ban is very extreme for what he actually did. His ban is longer than some sentences for retail theft that I have seen. I can guarantee that those retail thefts have done more harm to the world than the 6 letters he typed before pressing the enter key. 

[ES63]

2 hours ago, Checkmate128 said:

It is quite problematic that severe punishments are being doled out for chat infractions. Not only is the length seriously concerning, the fact that this was a ban instead of a mute is of greater concern. He made the mistake of saying 6 letters in chat and received a multiple month ban. I don't know his punishment history and maybe he has like 5 prior punishments, but this ban is very extreme for what he actually did. His ban is longer than some sentences for retail theft that I have seen. I can guarantee that those retail thefts have done more harm to the world than the 6 letters he typed before pressing the enter key. 

my last punishment was whenever i got that 15 min ban like 3 months ago

and my last mute was like for 1 day for accidentally putting the j infront of the /

 

[ES63]

its official:

theres 1 month, 3 weeks, and 3 days left

[ES63]

On 11/19/2022 at 6:21 PM, ES63 said:

its official:

theres 1 month, 3 weeks, and 3 days left

wrong!!!

theres 1 month, 2 weeks, 5 days, 19 hours, and 13 minutes left

[ES63]

ATTENTION!!!

If you have come here solely to be toxic to me, if you actually read the posts below you can see my opinion changing and i wish i titled the post something else

Edited November 30, 2022 by ES63