repeal rule #3

[killergotrekt]

Server Rules

1. Your server must be compliant with the Minecraft EULA. You can access it here.
2. You cannot leak any personal or private information such as but not limited to IPs, full names, house addresses, and anything else that could be considered private as well as self-identifiable.
3. You may not “grief” or destroy other public Minehut hosted servers unless you have full authority to do so.
4. The blockage of any Minehut commands such as /msg, /friends, /hub, or any other command that prevents the player from doing such actions is not allowed.
5. If you don't have more than 10 player slots, you can't have more than 10 players on your server.
6. You can't have any servers that are related to violent events or is hateful such as the Holocaust or anything that might discriminate against certain cultures or religions.

 

1. sure, i don't really care about that one

2. sure, i don't really care abut that one

3. okay, i would want the rule removed because; 1. its the server's responsibility to control who gets opped, or creative. 2. just why? its minehut's job to host servers, not going around being "server cops". the point i'm making is that griefing servers is not community disruption, its just the owner/admin/op who gave the user permissions/op/powers to grief the server.

4. sure, i don't really care about that one

5. sure, i don't really care about that one

6. sure, i don't really care about that one

[Nutterie]

found the griefer

[Jackson85]

So if you want this rule removed then you should suggest it under suggestions or on the suggestions discord however this rule likely won’t just be removed as it only causes more issues with server owners. Minehut also doesn’t just want a bunch of griefed servers and people complaining.

[Mathematiqs]

Op and creative aren't the only types of griefs:

 

 

In less than 10-20 minutes after the first block was placed, I was eventually caught and banned, but I was able to grief every significant build on this server. I don't think griefing should be bannable on minehut, its the owner's job to prevent and fix stuff like this, if they can't do it, this will happen: (Spawn is completely covered in cobblestone, players can't even break out of that without pearls since its a no build zone), they gave everyone creative automatically, so this only took about 10-20 minutes

 

If a professional griefer has a single bucket of lava, your server is in trouble.

 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Mathematiqs

[pyunbiwi]

ORDER, ORDER. THE HOUSE WILL COME TO ORDER!

The question is that Rule Number Three should be repealed. As many as are of that opinion say "Aye" <insert silence here>, and on the contrary, "No" <insert people screaming "no" here>. I think the Noes have it, the Noes have it. Order.

[Bear]

@Clarifity In actual legislature

you say aye nay or abstain

Aye meaning yes, nay meaning no, and abstain lowering the majority and your vote not counting

I vote aye.  

[pyunbiwi]

23 minutes ago, Bear said:

@Clarifity In actual legislature

you say aye nay or abstain

Aye meaning yes, nay meaning no, and abstain lowering the majority and your vote not counting

I vote aye.  

In the House of Commons all who agree shout "Aye", all who disagree say "No" and all who don't have an opinion are quiet. The Speaker decides which side was louder (so, for example, if the "Ayes" were heard more loudly, the Ayes would win). If both shouts are equal, then a division is called in which both side (Government and Opposition parties) go to a divisional corridor (either the corridor which agree - the one on the right - or the one which disagrees - the one on the left). During a division, anyone who wishes to abstain doesn't go into a corridor but instead remains in the chamber.

[Bear]

31 minutes ago, Clarifity said:

In the House of Commons all who agree shout "Aye", all who disagree say "No" and all who don't have an opinion are quiet. The Speaker decides which side was louder (so, for example, if the "Ayes" were heard more loudly, the Ayes would win). If both shouts are equal, then a division is called in which both side (Government and Opposition parties) go to a divisional corridor (either the corridor which agree - the one on the right - or the one which disagrees - the one on the left). During a division, anyone who wishes to abstain doesn't go into a corridor but instead remains in the chamber.

For the record, this is the House of Commons in like medieval days, not now.

[pyunbiwi]

2 minutes ago, Bear said:

For the record, this is the House of Commons in like medieval days, not now.

Eh... no, it's the House of Commons now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6e_XoSuopo (skip to 2:16) 

 

[Bear]

6 minutes ago, Clarifity said:

Eh... no, it's the House of Commons now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6e_XoSuopo (skip to 2:16) 

 

Oh, well, anyways, I do mock governments and in those it is aye nay or abstain.

[Mathematiqs]

Why is this about the house of commons and not about griefing?

 

Griefing without op should not be bannable, just get good plugins and it won't happen to you, if you put flint and steel, and/or lava and/or tnt in a chest 20 blocks away from spawn, outside of the spawn protection, and your server is public, what do you think will happen? Don't be surprised if you see your house burned down or blown up.

 

Btw, someone said they were going to report me for griefing a tiny cobblestone build with no doors, no windows, only around 30 blocks of cobblestone, if I actually get banned for that im done (no server rules that said no griefing on their server either), I also found this video on yt:

 

 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Mathematiqs

[Bear]

We went off topic, sorry and yeah I agree.

[Spiderlogical]

Is there a real problem with this, it's not like it really hurts anyone so is there any real reason to remove this rule. In my opinion no because this does help keep minehut more enjoyable, but also not everyone that breaks this rule gets banned because not everyone reports it. I've gone on kind of a ramble but basically

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[TacticalModz]

17 hours ago, Mathematiqs said:

Op and creative aren't the only types of griefs:

 

 

In less than 10-20 minutes after the first block was placed, I was eventually caught and banned, but I was able to grief every significant build on this server. I don't think griefing should be bannable on minehut, its the owner's job to prevent and fix stuff like this, if they can't do it, this will happen: (Spawn is completely covered in cobblestone, players can't even break out of that without pearls since its a no build zone), they gave everyone creative automatically, so this only took about 10-20 minutes

 

If a professional griefer has a single bucket of lava, your server is in trouble.

 

 

 

lmao

You can just drain it via //drain <amount> and rollback with CO

[Timo_und_Lusi]

20 hours ago, Bear said:

@Clarifity In actual legislature

you say aye nay or abstain

Aye meaning yes, nay meaning no, and abstain lowering the majority and your vote not counting

I vote aye.  

I vote YEET

[Gaminger]

For the record:

killergotrekt saw the glorious days of minehut, in which this rule did not exist.

Back in our days we could grief all servers and get away with it, until they added the community disruption rule which keep in mind was not even in the rules list back then and it was a pretty lame excuse to ban some blacklisted people.

I fought against that "rule" back then

Some time after minehut decided to make the "no grief rule" a thing since community disruption's "rule" was most of the time used against player server griefers.

Now I do get it that this is an attempt to reduce the amount of complaints from players because of servers getting griefed.

The real question here is: Should there be a rule against player server griefing? And the answer is simple: Minehut does whatever it wants lol. Its their server so they get to choose what the rules are.

My theory about why we are even discussing this is because this was not a rule for a long time back in the old days, and people were used to it not being a rule. The fact that killergotrekt started this discussion shows me that I might be right, because he was one of those players.

If you want my opinion: I am against the rule, cuz its funny to grief servers.